Mindwipe
Fri, May 31 '13, 00:05
Tag Dictionary Suggestion Thread
This thread is for discussing and suggesting changes and updates to the Tag Dictionary: forum #191
Mindwipe
Fri, May 31 '13, 00:05
I know that there are still quite a few tags missing, but I wanted to go ahead and get this up sooner rather than later, because I know there are still people who have trouble figuring out the tags. Also, I’m not going to add EVERY tag to the dictionary. Things like hair and eye color, for example, seem pointless. Feel free to point out any tags I missed (even though there’s a chance I already know it’s missing) or any changes you think I should make.
Lost+Name
Fri, May 31 '13, 00:27
Nicely done, Mindwipe. We're starting to seem like even more of a legitimate booru now.

If I may, I'd just like to say that I think the "expressionless" tag is being somewhat overused. I can understand it being used for images where the subject seems confused or slightly somber but I've seen a handful of images where the subject actually seems a little angry like this pic post #9169.

It's not a big deal but I just thought I'd bring it up.
Mindwipe
Fri, May 31 '13, 00:57
I'm sure there's a bit of tag pollution going on here and there, and I try to remove or correct any tags I know are blatantly wrong, but there are some cases where I can see where the tagger was coming from and I leave it alone. "expressionless" and "dazed" have both been tags where I've had trouble judging if they're used correctly. "expressionless" has been used more for "vacant/distant stare" than its actual definition since its creation, and I've mostly just rolled with it.
Anonymind
Fri, May 31 '13, 02:16
I think it's odd bimbo and bimbofication are separate tags.
Mindwipe
Fri, May 31 '13, 02:50
So do I, really, and I don't know where that started or why. I could make the argument that "bimbo" is the result and "bimbofication" is the process, but a bimbo pic that doesn't show the process probably wouldn't be allowed...

It may be time to do away with the "bimbo" tag. I'm not sure why I've let it go on for this long.
petal
Fri, May 31 '13, 03:45
Excellent, I've been wanting to request something like this for a while.
I've probably been contributing to the "expressionless" pollution. I find myself adding it to a pretty wide range of expressions... I know I've tagged a lot of images with "open_mouth" because it helps me find sort of dazed looking pics like post #8974 or post #5937, both of which sort of fall into the same category for me but aren't both tagged expressionless.
Mindwipe
Fri, May 31 '13, 04:16
That 2nd one probably should be expressionless, imo, so I added it. The first, I'm not as sure about.

I'm putting together a short list of tags I left off and will update soon.

Edit: Updated with the following tags:

Inductions - possession
Poses - saluting
Misc. - body_control, chin_hold, exhibitionism, resisting, unaware
Vanndril
Fri, May 31 '13, 07:48
Tag Dictionary layout was changed for easier reading.
Mindwipe
Fri, May 31 '13, 07:59
Mindwipe said:
It may be time to do away with the "bimbo" tag.


How useless was the "bimbo" tag? Because of the way partial tag searches work, searching for "bimbo" automatically turned up all pics tagged with "bimbofication", anyway. So, using the magic of the alias system, we've done away with the "bimbo" tag, making "bimbofication" the sole tag for that sub-fetish. Trying to add "bimbo" to the tags will result in "bimbofication" being added instead.
Lost+Name
Fri, May 31 '13, 09:31
We should probably add a list of hair styles to the dictionary. I don't think I saw any there.
Vorp
Fri, May 31 '13, 15:48
No drool tag? For shame, Mindwipe. :P
Mindwipe
Fri, May 31 '13, 19:53
Lost+Name said:
We should probably add a list of hair styles to the dictionary. I don't think I saw any there.


Probably. The only hair style that's gotten any noticeable use so far is "twintails", though.

Vorp said:
No drool tag? For shame, Mindwipe. :P


I guess I'll add it just so people know we use it instead of "drooling" or something.
Vanndril
Sat, Jun 01 '13, 00:10
Honestly, Mindwipe, I've been thinking. You should probably just add EVERY tag to it.

Isn't the point to help people know what to tag and when? Not everyone is going to pick up on the fact that we use certain obvious tags, like the drool or hair color tags, just by browsing around. I'm starting to believe that the dictionary will better serve its purpose if even the most obvious of tags were added.
Mindwipe
Sat, Jun 01 '13, 01:19
"brown_hair - A character has brown hair." Yeah, that's informative.

Edit: Tags added:

Misc. - braid, drool, ponytail, twintails

Still a lot more to go, unfortunately.
Lost+Name
Sat, Jun 01 '13, 02:23
Mindwipe said:
"brown_hair - A character has brown hair." Yeah, that's informative.


Well if that's the case, Mindwipe, then maybe it might be better to just put down a few examples as well as the protocol for multicolored hair. We also don't seem to have a tag listing for ahoges. Wouldn't hurt, right?
Mindwipe
Sat, Jun 01 '13, 03:09
I'll be clear about one thing, I will NOT put EVERY tag in this dictionary, because artist, manipper, character, and series tags are all tags too. It would be absolutely ludicrous for me to list every single artist, manipper, character, and series that has tags on this site. As for hair colors, the thing about them is you can't even get people to agree on them. I've seen green hair pics that I'd call blue, blue hair pics that I'd call purple, purple hair pics I'd call black, and so on. In any case, IF hair colors go in here at all, they're really low on my list of priorities.

Lost+Name said:
We also don't seem to have a tag listing for ahoges. Wouldn't hurt, right?


I don't know what that is.

I'm not making any more updates at the moment, as I'm too busy working on a pain-in-the-ass manip. I'll get back on it later.
Vanndril
Sat, Jun 01 '13, 03:29
Mindwipe said:
I'll be clear about one thing, I will NOT put EVERY tag in this dictionary, because artist, manipper, character, and series tags are all tags too. It would be absolutely ludicrous for me to list every single artist, manipper, character, and series that has tags on this site.

...You idiot. XD No one expected you to literally write every single name of every single applicable character and series and artist.

Just put down things like...

color_hair - where someone in the pic has color hair. Replace "color" in the tag with the appropriate color (i.e. blond_hair)


name_(manipper) - the name of the creator of the manip.


As for things like series, artist, etc., just make a note at the end that things like series titles, character and artist names, and the like are tags used as well, but that they're excluded from the dictionary because it would be silly to try and write them all individually.

I know that many of these things are covered in the rules, but it's a bad idea to require users to go between two official posts just to get information on how to properly tag. Having them all in one post would be best.
Lost+Name
Sat, Jun 01 '13, 03:32
Mindwipe said: I don't know what that is.



This here post #7101 would be a prime example of an ahoge. Milla Maxwell has one of the oddest ahoges I've ever seen(which is saying something when it comes to ahoges). Ahoge is also known as stupid hair or dumb hair (or something like that). The part where Milla's hair sprouts a strays off to the side a gradually becomes green is her ahoge. An ahoge is typically where part of an anime characters hair sprouts up and strays from the rest of it like a plant or something.

Here are a couple more examples post #6858 post #389.
If you're feeling swamped I can put it in the dictionary for you if you'd like.

Mindwipe said: I'm not making any more updates at the moment, as I'm too busy working on a pain-in-the-ass manip. I'll get back on it later.

P.S.
I also happen to be working on some tutorials for future manippers. ;)
Mindwipe
Sat, Jun 01 '13, 03:59
Vanndril said:
No one expected you to literally write every single name of every single applicable character and series and artist.


That's what "You should probably just add EVERY tag to it." means. :P
And, fine, I get the idea. I'll get to it... ehhhhhhh... eventually.

Lost+Name said:
Ahoge is also known as stupid hair or dumb hair (or something like that)


Okay, but... There are no images tagged with "ahoge". I'm not gonna add tags that we don't use. =/

And fuck that manip I was making. Time for plan B.
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